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Brendan Bannon: I mean, you know what what I did when I started traveling is

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Brendan Bannon: you know I try. I didn't travel to places that necessarily scared me. I travel to places that

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Brendan Bannon: I was interested and intrigued about.

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Brendan Bannon: I traveled to most of them with a purpose.  at least

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Brendan Bannon: you know the at least, the purpose of making photographs like Italy was with some of the earliest travel I did and you know what kind of crack that I for me was

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Brendan Bannon: my house painting partner, and I used to talk about like leaving the guys on the job and going to Sicily and just walking around on the beaches.

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Brendan Bannon: And I started investigating the cost to tickets. And I was like, you know, they were like 400 bucks

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Brendan Bannon: in March to fly to to Rome and then take the train down to Sicily. It was another 35 bucks, and I was like. well shit, we can pay for this trip with a couple of, you know, with one house painting job.

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Brendan Bannon: So I just went. I bought the tickets, you know, and I bought them kind of as a you know, as a as a just like as being a little punk like.

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Brendan Bannon: Hey, we should leave the guys on the job and go to Sicily. It's like what the fuck I don't even have a fucking passport. It's fucking real tickets like, yeah, they're fucking real tickets. I mean, you got 2 months, you know, to get your passport together. But

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Brendan Bannon: we're going, you know, and it was like you to me like you got a month to put a show together.

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Brendan Bannon: What are you complaining about?

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Brendan Bannon: So you know we went. I I travel with somebody that I trusted implicitly, who I worked with constantly.

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Brendan Bannon:  you know, and I found out, like the only thing you need to do to go to Sicily again is like

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Brendan Bannon: no fucking wall like you got to buy a ticket. You're gonna say, I'm going to Sicily, buy a ticket and get on the plane. And then you're in Sicily, like.

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Brendan Bannon: you know?

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Brendan Bannon:  And then, you know, people are like, Oh, yeah, Rome is cool to watch out in Sicily, and you know

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Brendan Bannon: I dropped a camera lens on the bus in Sicily.

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Brendan Bannon: and the bus driver figured out like

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Brendan Bannon: where I was going, and showed up at the house

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Brendan Bannon: where I was staying with the lens, and was like, I think you you lost this, and you know, because he he recognized the guy that met me when I got off the bus, who was a distant relative of Joe's.

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Brendan Bannon: And it was like, Oh, okay, so this is what happens when you go to really dangerous places. Really.

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Brendan Bannon: you either get fucked up or you know

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Brendan Bannon: you do something really stupid, and somebody saves your ass, like.

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Brendan Bannon: you know, and you can't really predict which one it's going to be. So

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Brendan Bannon: you know, what you could predict is that if you stay home none of it's gonna happen.

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Brendan Bannon: So what do you want? You know? Be curious. And in the world like. take the chance. And you know, the more you do it, the more you find out, like. you know, the world is out there.

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Brendan Bannon: It's waiting for you. You can get through most circumstances.

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Brendan Bannon:  doors will open as often as they'll close

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Brendan Bannon: you can recover from your mistakes most often, you know, more often than not.

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Brendan Bannon:  you know people be there to help you. People be there hurt you? You're not necessarily going to know the difference between the 2.

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Brendan Bannon: But there's gonna be more people that will help you than people that will hurt you.

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Brendan Bannon: You know you meet somebody in an in an hour. Be invited to stay on their couch like if you don't travel, you live in a place like Buffalo, where nobody came to for our whole childhood. Everybody was just fucking leaving.

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Brendan Bannon: They're like, you know, what is a traveler. But if you go to places where people travel

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Brendan Bannon: you meet other travelers. It's like, Oh, every traveler is looking for a friend. you know, because they don't have all their buddies to call. What are you doing this afternoon, you know. So

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Brendan Bannon: you get lonely. You stop and talk to somebody who's traveling. And then the next thing, you know, you know you rented scooters in your

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Brendan Bannon: riding around a volcanic mountain, and, you know, sharing a hotel room platonically or otherwise like. And then you're like, wow! This is like, this is what happens when you leave the house.

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Brendan Bannon: This is way cooler than it is scary And then, if you get scared, you know, like I was a big kind of

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Brendan Bannon: early adopter of the self

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Brendan Bannon: self created cognitive behavioral therapy regimen where it was like. oh, you know what I'm really nervous and be like. Well. I could call that nervousness being scared, or I could say, this is the feeling that comes to me. That reminds me.

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Brendan Bannon: you know, to be to be careful, to be excited, to engage, but to watch my back.

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Brendan Bannon: It's not the feeling that says you're gonna die. You're gonna get murder, you know. You're gonna fall off the face of the earth like

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Brendan Bannon: that's not what that feeling means. That churning like it means. you know. Buckle your seat belt. You're going on an adventure, not buckle your seat. You might die. So you talk to yourself about things in that language enough, and it becomes the

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Brendan Bannon: the experience that you have, instead of

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Brendan Bannon: the experience that you're afraid of, you know. And if you respond to those feelings, and you don't have the experience. It just stays the experience that you're afraid of.